I know this is sort of old news, but it still cracks me up. Not that someone getting shot in the fact is funny. It depends on who that someone is.
"He felt badly, obviously. On the other hand, he was not careless or incautious or violate any of the [rules]. He didn't do anything he wasn't supposed to do."
You mean, besides shooting a person in the face?
I don't know how many of you have been hunting, or have fired a gun in any sort of hunting-like capacity (maybe just me and Mike?), but guess what: if someone gets shot, you broke some rules.
These are loaded f'ing guns. It's the shooters job to know where others are, it's his/her job to understand where his barrel is pointed before the trigger is pulled, etc. There aren't any hunting accidents: there are hunting failure-to-pay-attentions.
/misses clay shooting
//tried it competitively when I was like 13
///always got housed by QAC rednecks
////still really fun though
/////slashitty slashitty slash
I agree with Chris, kids are taught from a very young age to know where you're shooting, and know what you're shooting before you pull the trigger. I've spent a lot of time in duck blinds, and the first two things you check are, is your safety on, and do you know where you're allowed to fire and where you're neighbor is allowed to fire.
I don't care who you are, there is absolutely no excuse for shooting someone while hunting, none.
Posted by: Mike at February 13, 2006 07:04 PMYeah, the reports are trying to share blame with the lawyer/victim. While coming up from behind a shooter without being obvious about it isn't the smartest thing, there's no excuse for shooting someone in the face.
I've done some shooting, but only skeet shooting and some rifle/pistol target practice (Anne Arundel gun club was right down the street). Even in those relatively safe environments, I was taught to always check the safety, magazine, and the chamber, and even if you were 100% sure it was empty, you would still never point the gun at anything you wanted kept alive.
/would love to get sprayed by Cheney - I think I would wear a "I got shot by the Vice President" shirt every week for the rest of my life.
Posted by: Rick at February 13, 2006 07:37 PMHeh, you want to get sprayed by Cheney. He's apparently pretty good at facials...just ask him not to get any in your hair.
Posted by: Chris at February 13, 2006 08:54 PMI'm re-reading these comments, and I didn't mean to overstate my clay shooting. These were Ducks Unlimited youth events at places like J&P's...there were prizes and stuff, but I feel wrong saying I was a "competitive" clay shooter.
But hey, people were keeping score, and I was trying to win, so...and they gave away a gun every time to the winner. I never won. And the kids that did win had way more (and nicer) guns than I ever did.
/loved his Remington 1187
//Side-by-sides are t3h suck for clays
///Always knew Rick loved facials
You guys are disappointing...all this prompting, and not one "aww, skeet skeet skeet skeet"? Where is Tunde?
Posted by: Chris at February 14, 2006 02:41 AMI guess I've got about the same gun experience as Rick. I've done a little target shooting before - and it's always stressed how careful you have to be. In this case, it doesn't bother me so much that Cheney did this - accidents (or failure-to-pay-attentions) do happen - but it pisses me off that he's not owning up to his mistake, and trying to pass the blame off on the guy that got shot.
As far as Cheney being a hunter, here's an article on the type of hunting he does (caged birds released so that he can shoot them). The writers of a lot of the blogs I read are pretty upset about this type of hunting, but I don't know how bad it is. Is it really any worse that the standard method of slaughter for poultry? At least this way, the birds have a small chance of escape (16.6% in Cheney's PA hunt). I guess the difference would be the number of birds maimed, not killed, and the question of whether the birds are actually eaten, or whether they're just being used for live target practice.
Posted by: Fatboy at February 14, 2006 11:26 AMAre you supposed to shoot the quail as soon as they take off? You'd think you might want to try and shoot them when they were in the air. You know, so you don't shoot your friends, your dog, etc. Also, they waited a day or so to report this. And it was discovered through a local paper. Is it fair to assume they were waiting to see if the guy was going to die? With friends like that . . .
Posted by: John at February 14, 2006 12:55 PMQuail take off kind of horizontally...they get about 5 feet high, and then just move left to right for a while. It's like NES Duck Hunt, without the zigging or zagging. Easy, easy shooting.
I strongly recommend you all watch today's 7pm Daily Show repeat...last night's was incredible. Almost all Cheney.
Posted by: Chris at February 14, 2006 01:13 PMOh, and these are farm-raised quail that don't know what to do in the wild, so they just kind of cruise. It's not hunting, it's bird murder.
/don't mean that in a tree-hugging way
//just want to rag on Dicky C
Speaking of tree huggers, I wonder how they'll respond to this, cultured, or in vitro, meat grown in a lab. On the one hand, it's saving animals from being killed. On the other hand, I can see lots of people having a problem with this being "unnatural."
Posted by: Fatboy at February 14, 2006 03:11 PMGod I hope test tube meat comes out soon. All meat, no nonsense. Can you imagine a chicken breast sammich without that strip of shit down the middle? Affordable very-lean ground beef? Tenderloin with no silverskin? Mmm, goddamn.
Posted by: Chris at February 14, 2006 05:06 PMThat's bullshit. He did not have a heart attack. He had a BULLET in his HEART.
He was shot through the heart, and Cheney's to blame. Whoa-oh, Ricky's over there-ere.
Posted by: Chris at February 14, 2006 05:45 PMI like how in the Hunting Accident Report From, you can see what "area" Mr. Whittingon was shot. And it looks lke a bird.
And yeah, the Daily Show was hilarious. You can download the 3-segment video on this page (direct .wmv and .mov links). Pure gold 4 minutes in with the 'recreation'.
Posted by: Rick at February 15, 2006 12:38 PM