Terrapin Tables

Wow...that is something else. Certainly alot of freaks in that video.

For the record (and please no one take offense to this), I could probably only kill a puppy if I could drown it or it was going to be killed anyway. And it would have to be for $50,000+ with some going to charity. Oh, and there could be no criminal prosecution.

"dead puppies, aren't much fun" -- amen to that

I haven't seen the clip, since I have SlowNet, but I would totally kill a puppy, with my bare hands, for not much money. I need money a lot more than the world needs another dog.

Yeah, it's not what people want to hear, but how many of you would kill, say, a baby skunk or racoon for $100? How is it different? Because there is a consensus in this country that puppies are attractive? They're food in the Far East...they kill puppies for lunch. So, for a few hundred or so, I would kill a puppy in any fashion not excesively painful (like, neck snap yes; blender no).

I agree with Chris on this, except that I would need a reason to kill it other than just money. If it was a pest, was in for a long life of suffering, or I was going to eat it, then yes, I'd kill it. Hell, look at how many animals already have to die each day just to feed me.

And my boss's daughter has killed a dog with her bare hands. Granted, she had just hit it with her car and it was suffering, but she didn't have any weapons, so she just walked up to it and snapped its neck.

Good lord. The raccoon/skunk analogy has the flaw that they are wild animals, born and raised in the wild. Dogs are abandoned in the wild. Not too many packs of wild dogs. I wouldn't kill a skunk or a raccoon unless it was a threat. Baby raccoons are cuter than half the puppies running around anyway. The "animals that feed me" argument is also flawed. Those animals would not exist if people did not eat them. They are bred for you to eat them, not to keep you company. I am not going get on here and defend the rights of pit bulls who have attacked people.

That being said, I could probably do it, if there were a greater good, i.e., used the money to open an animal shelter or something. Otherwise I couldn't sleep at night. Why? Because I am a big wuss.

I asked another guy here at work, and he said he'd do it for minimum wage at the animal shelter. They kill dogs all the time, so he wouldn't mind doing it. He'd also do it for food, etc. But he also said that he couldn't do it for just no reason.

And just to repeat what Chris said, people do eat dogs. So I could kill it if I was going to eat it, just so long as it wasn't my dog. But I'd probably need a knife to slit it's throat. I don't know if I could quite do it by brute force with my bare hands.

I think the bare hands is what gets me. You can shoot anything with a gun, but the bare hands is what would irk me a little. I am just looking at it in the situation in the video, where two guys just show up with a puppy and tell you to kill it with your bare hands. Sure, things are different if it is going to be eaten, or at a shelter where they are going to die either way. I am talking, standing in the student union - kill a puppy. I want some good money for that shit.

OK, assuming this is an innocent puppy that's not suffering or about to be put down anyway, I think I'd have to take $50,000, and I'd have to put a considerable amount of that towards some sort of animal charity. If it was suffering and about to die, I'd do it without too much hesitaton though...

Okay, I see your point, Pat. In that case, $100,000 for the puppy in the video, $50,000 for one of those little shit dogs, or $30,000 for a helpless newborn puppy. Decrease all prices by 90% if I could use a knife. And all in cash- no oversized novelty checks.

Yeah, I think my numbers could be skewed by how much money I could use to get out of debt and live luxuriously, but still, bare hands -- gotta be worth something.

Everyone think seriously...someone has 500 in cash for you. All you have to do is strangle a healthy, vibrant, adorable month-old black lab. I'd do it. The puppy won't know the difference, and the world certainly wouldn't have been a better place for its survival. No kid is going to miss out on a pet for it...shelters nationwide get rid of animals by the thousands everyday. So go for it. I should watch that video, ey?

Now the real question: how much would it take to kill a person? It would vary, for me, depending on the person. The method is less important. Discuss.

A person- only in war or self defence of me and my family. No money involved.

BTW, Irma said $250,000 for the dog, and fuck the charities- she's keeping it all for herself.

you all already kill kittens every day. seriously, could you leave the puppies alone?

well done Michelle. I was going to reference killing kittens, but couldn't find a clever way to work it into taking 50K to kill a puppy. Touche.

Everyone here (that knows me, anyway) knows that I'm an animal lover (i.e. big wuss in John's words). So I could probably do a person before a puppy, not that either would be good, but a person could defend him/herself.

In combining everyone's logic in theis thread, I think the consensus is that we would all kill a bunch of retarded midget babies with a blender for 2 easy tax-free payments of $29.95 with half the money going to the WWF and the other half going to the WWE.

For the record, I fall in with the consensus that I could only kill a puppy with my bare hands if it would die anyway, or was or would be in pain. I could not do it just for money and would donate some to an animal charity as well. But please don't ask me to, even for a lot of money. (I am also a big wuss.)

just for the record, and you all probably know this, i cannot and will not ever kill any animal with my bare hands, be it a puppy or a human, for any amount of money.

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I don't mind killing animals for me to eat, but I don't like to see animals killed for no reason. I'm pretty sure that's the consensus here, since most of us aren't vegetarians, but still wouldn't kill a puppy. What gets me is that even though people don't want to see animals die needlessly, those same people are unwilling to eat foods such as pigs feet, scrapple, or sausage in a natural casing just because they're "disgusting." They're all just body parts of the animal, just like muscle is a body part. And the more parts of an animal you eat, the further that single animal goes, and the less animals have to die to feed you. Pork chops are my favorite part of the pig, but I'm also willing to eat hot dogs, scrapple, bacon, and a lot of the other scraps. That way, a single pig will feed me for probably about a month. If all I ate were the pork chops, I'd have to kill four pigs to feed me in that same time span. Not only is that being cruel by killing more animals, it's also being irresponsible environmentally, since it takes the same resources to raise each pig. So if you're going to take an animal's life to eat it, you better eat the whole animal.
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This here, Jeff, is another discussion. I refuse scrapple, hot dogs, most sausages, etc. because of (a) astronmonical fat and sodium contents and (b) the "other parts of the pig" you are talking about include lips, anuses, testicles, brains, spinal cords, vertebrae lining, etc. That is stuff I don't want to eat - I'll stick to real meat...actual muscle.

But I would venture I've killed more animals for the sake of eating than anyone here. The "act" wasn't thrilling, but the gose, duck, and venison was good. I'm not about to scrape out a deer hoof though, Fatboy. I have extra venison in my freezer if anyone wants some.

Chad and I killed a puppy in celebration of the Maryland win last night...

Don't forget that evil fucking rabbit that cost us the NIU game.

"What's up now you fucking rabbit!" - probably my favorite moment of '03.